but I haven't been able to pinpoint any of the books you're mentioning. As you know, there are a lot of historical atlases out there *g* as well as four books called "The Dodges of Venice". Could you give us a little more details, like the author or the complete name and editor? Also, I haven't found any book named "The Patrician Families" or "The Illuminated leaders at the head of the millenarian St. Mark's Republic". Maybe you've translated the titles from Italian, or those books are pretty rare? Again, it would be very helpful if you could give us a little more details. Which one(s) would you recommend the most? Thanks ^-^