Grrr, it drives me crayzee when I run smack up against the lack of consistency and compatibility in this industry. I didn't really get the message about browser differences until I dipped a toe into the coding world here at Arachne, and then I got it loud and clear. Here's a case in point: anyone who visits Laurels' spa using Netscape will find that the page title's a complete mess, whereas IE reveals the full genius of Bithiah's renaming code trick. Till about three weeks ago, I truculently used Netscape because I so resented having IE crammed down my throat. But now, I'm starting to weaken. All I can tell you for sure is that it's not a good idea to use both and keep switching back and forth! I can tell you this because that's what I [koff] am doing at the moment, and...yeah...it doesn't work too well.