Sorry, I sound like I'm being a smart ass I dont mean to be. It's just that although some have no problem with Paypal through many purchases and even many years of use, this is simply not the case for everyone. Admin knows my situation, but there are others less weird and just problematic who have posted in this same thread asking for an alternative. I personally am not asking this site to switch to a different system am just reccommending they look into the possibility of having a secondary.