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    Author: * Heraklia Aelius - 1 Post on this thread out of 7,378 Posts sitewide.
    Date: Mar 10, 2004 - 12:42

    Very interesting post, Asliann! One thing you noted caught my eye in particular:

    While male characters seem forever torn between good and evil, the only women we see are beacons of virtue.

    That is sooooo 19th-century Victorian, and I think there is that aspect to Tolkein's writing; you find it in his distaste for the ugliness of factories, his "golden age" memories of a quieter, less industrial time, and certainly in his portrayal of women - Pure Dickens.

    I don't think we have to apologize for Tolkein - he's a man of his time, and in his time, that whole theory that women embody the best human characteristics while violent men, although courageous, often embody the worst - well, he was just writing within the confines of his culture. If we go looking for a man writing about women as equal to men, we won't find him until, maybe, 25 years ago.

    Anyway, his warrior culture just didn't make much room for women. But I thought Jackson did a marvelous job emphasizing, where he rationally could, the importance of women to the story.


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